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Stop identifying as an undisciplined person, and what that means is have you ever said the words I don't have the discipline for that?
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Stop that.
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Yes, and we all.
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By the way, my hand went up too.
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Okay, both hands.
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So this is not, marcus, pointing a finger at you and being like, see, you deserve no, I have so much mercy because I was once you.
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I was that person.
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Our language is so important.
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Hey, uncommon Leaders, welcome back.
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This is the Uncommon Leader Podcast and I'm your host, john Gallagher.
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Today I've got Marcus Collius, who shares transformational insights from his journey of personal growth and the wisdom he's compiled in his newly released book Play a Bigger Game.
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Marcus details a profound realization on a plane ride that sparked his passion for meaningful conversations and personal development.
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In this episode, you'll hear Marcus discuss the power of positive self-talk, the impact of diet on overall well-being and the transformative potential of simple tools like sticky notes.
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We'll dive into the seven foundational principles in his book and explore the importance of setting high personal standards.
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Whether you're seeking more wins or trying to overcome limiting beliefs.
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This episode is packed with actionable insights and heartfelt stories.
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Let's get started.
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Let's get started, Marcus Collius.
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Welcome to the Uncommon Leader Podcast.
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I am so looking forward to our conversation today.
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How are you doing?
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John, I'm having an amazing day.
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I'm psyched to be here, I'm psyched for this conversation and I think we're going to be giving your listeners some big, actionable advice today.
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It's going to be fun Well, that's what we love to do and I am looking forward to be giving your listeners some big, actionable advice today.
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It's going to be fun Well, that's what we love to do and I am looking forward to chatting about your recently released book and you can see it behind my shoulder over there Play a Bigger Game and it's been a lot of fun.
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Seven principles that you basically have instilled in your life and are now teaching others through their journey, so I can't wait to get the chance to have a conversation with you about that.
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But I want to start you off.
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I won't give you any break with the same question.
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I always start my first time guests on the Uncommon Leader podcast, and that's to ask you to tell me a story from your childhood that may still impact who you are as a person or a leader today.
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Oh, I love this question and I'm sure there's about a thousand different stories that I could give you.
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You know, I'm going to start by just prefacing it by saying I love my backstory.
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There's so much pain in my backstory, but please don't carry any of that as, oh, please pity me or anything like that.
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In fact, the reason I want to tell this one story I'm going to talk about my parents' divorce because it messed me up for so many years, and what I'm hoping people are going to really hear out of this story is something that they can relate to for one.
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But number two is no matter how painful your backstory, you can turn it into something absolutely beautiful.
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We all have an origin story and, if you like, superheroes, man.
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They had to go through something really difficult and it was usually painful to become the superhero that they were today.
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So for me, when I was seven years old, my parents divorced.
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Now they had already a crappy marriage, and that's their words, not just mine.
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I never really got to see love in that house.
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But when I was seven and they called it quits, my dad was officially out and my mom had to go back to school full time and work full time to provide for us four kids.
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So I lost both of my parents on that day.
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That screwed me up so bad.
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I mean, it's one thing to be a boy without a father that screws a dude up but now to not have a mother as well.
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Man, I had to learn so much so young and, of course, if you asked me when I was 12 or 13, I'd be like this is the worst.
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This is why I won't do anything with my life.
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But you asked me today and I would say that's exactly why I do everything and you can learn so much from it.
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And one of the great starting places because I speak to so many people about that it's like, yeah, but Marcus, I got some real pain.
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I don't even know what the first step is.
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The first step is to say, hey, is there anything good in my life today, or who I am today?
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Because of that?
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There's always beautiful gifts in it.
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So, oh, yeah, I'm a more compassionate person, I'm a more independent person, I'm a stronger person.
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For me, the amount I love my wife and my children and will be there for my children every single day of their lives, well, that's because of that divorce.
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So it was such a gift for Marcus.
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It's tough to see at the time.
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Absolutely tough to see at the time.
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Thank you so much for sharing that.
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I know it has to be a tough story but, as a lot of folks will talk about, in this community, in this world that we live in today, as many cannot overcome that pain, but when you can find your purpose through that pain that you've had and you can identify, just like you said, who you are today as a result of that, sometimes it's the way we don't want to be, sometimes it's absolutely the way we do want to be, and how we learn through that can be very powerful.
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We have a common connection in Rory Vaden, who says you're most powerfully positioned to help the person that you once were.
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There's so much truth in that statement.
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It's what brought me to Grand Builders Group just a year and a half ago.
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We kind of touched on that before we hit record on the podcast.
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But it was something that was really there for me as well, and maybe when I get a chance to be on your podcast I can tell that story how it works for me.
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But we're not here to talk about me.
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We're absolutely here to talk about you and the value that you're adding to your community now, which has been unreal and uncommon when you think about simply just the results and I'm looking forward to hearing more about the process, but you have ultimately, just in looking at some of the numbers, you've been the founder of multiple eight and nine-figure businesses.
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You grew your supplement company from a startup in your dorm room or in your college apartment to 170 million, helped clients lose over 3 million pounds and have impacted over 10 million people.
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Those are uncommon results.
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So when you think about writing playing a bigger game or play a bigger game, that has to be something that you're encouraging folks to do.
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So let's start right there.
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With regards to the title, where did the title come from?
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Who are you writing this book for?
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Oh, wow, do I ever love this?
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I'm going to answer this in an unorthodox way, if it's okay.
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So, first of all, play bigger game.
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It is the way I live my life.
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It's a movement.
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And play bigger game for clarity purposes.
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It means if you believe you could be doing more with your life, like there is a bigger game to be played in your life, around you.
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This world has more to offer you than what you're experiencing right now Then I invite you to play a bigger game in life.
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It truly is an invitation.
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And these principles in this book there's pretty simple principles Like.
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This is a pretty easy read.
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I don't pretend to be someone.
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I'm not and it's truly just my language.
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So if anybody listening to this is like, actually, I kind of like the way this guy talks, I like his energy, then this book is for you.
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And one of the most important things, by the way, take the challenges.
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You have to take action on this stuff.
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If you just learn this stuff and do nothing with it, nothing's going to change.
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So my encouragement to you is you must take action.
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But I was going to answer your question in an unorthodox way and say first who this book is not for If you are listening to this and going, you know what I am experiencing.
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Everything I want to out of life, I feel fulfillment.
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I win constantly.
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I am killing it in life.
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I am just cheering you on going.
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That's amazing.
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And if that was your answer, by the way, will you reach out to me Because I want to hear some of your secrets?
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I would love to learn from you and I'm I just want to be clear, that was not condescending in any way Like I love to learn and if you are winning that much, I want to know what some of your secrets are.
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But if you want to know some of my secrets, or if you are the person who's like, well, I'm not fully fulfilled, like, yeah, I get some wins, would I like some more wins in life?
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Yeah, of course, who wouldn't?
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I'd like to feel more fulfilled and, just for clarity, fulfillment.
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How many people do you know in your life who experience great things, who maybe have a phenomenal job or making great money or seem like they've got a great family life, but when you actually talk to them, they're not fulfilled, they don't have joy in their life, they feel somehow stuck and you're like what?
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But everything seems so good, because if you don't have the right mindset, you could have everything you've ever dreamed of and still be unhappy, still feel unfulfilled.
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And that's one of the things I love to help people with, because I was really on that path for many years and I was chasing things that I didn't even want until I learned how to structure proper perspective, proper mindset.
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Now not only do I win tons, but I actually get to experience the win, I get to experience the fulfillment and I get to share that with everybody around me.
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Oh man, that really excites me because to me, real success is watching others succeed and experience everything that they dreamed of experiencing in this life.
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Marcus, I love that in a story and I love that you talked about the framework of the book as well, with the challenges, to make sure that you finish the challenges.
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I mean each of the seven principles outlines many stories that you've gone through, certainly that inspirational quotes, biblical verses that exist in terms of what has impacted you as well, and then you finish, kind of each section, if you will, with a challenge and then an advanced challenge.
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And I agree I think you should be thinking about how you complete those challenges and I know the things that you've been on.
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I mean, I see inside the book your pictures on the front of Ironman magazine and muscle and fitness magazine as to where you've been on the other side, of how you got started and the some fruits of those principles that you've lived over time.
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I think folks can learn a lot just from that structure in terms of how it goes forward and what they'll be able to do.
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Let's maybe touch on a little bit of those.
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Well, no, before I get to the seven principles I want you to share, because I think we've got a couple things at least in common with regards to our stories.
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First of all, height-wise, you're a pretty tall guy 6'4".
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I'm 6'4" as well, so I was grateful enough.
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I may have been on the other side of what your story is, though I was the overweight kid as they got taller and I ended up, even as an older adult, being around 6'4", 270 pounds before I needed to make my changes as well.
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But again, not about me, it's about your story.
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Tell me about the story of your uh time as a tall, skinny person, if you will, and what was the catalyst for some of the change that you had?
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Oh, thank you for asking, but I first wanted to celebrate with you, brother.
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You look phenomenal.
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You look phenomenal.
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Clearly, what you did was so good for you, for your life and for all your relationships.
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Man, I can even see it in your skin.
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It looks good on you, this healthy version of you.
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So, man kudos to you.
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I appreciate that, Marcus.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, giddy up, yeah for me.
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When I first finished my Lithuanian growth spurt, I was not even 14 years old 6'4", 120 pounds.
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Ladies, hold on to your hats.
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It was so tough and it was awkward and I was uncoordinated and I was so embarrassed of how I looked and I stood out and then the bullies started to tell me who I was and I believed them and it was just such a sucky path.
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And you know, one of the things I really recognize and going back to that quote that we talk about, with Rory Vaden saying you're most powerfully positioned to help the person you once were as adults, who clearly got stuck at that young age, who got spoken to by those same bullies telling them this is who you are, no, you're not that good, this is the crap that you are.
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And they got stuck there and they took it into their whole life with them.
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And so one of my one thing on my heart so much mercy for all those people.
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And I just want to help people get unstuck.
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And it's a choice, it's just a choice.
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One day I chose, I got called to choose a different path for my life, and this is a fun story in my book and it's really a defining moment in my life.
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It's 15 years old.
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I was on a plane and I really felt God say, hey, where you're going right now, no one knows who you are, so you could be who you want to be.
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Like what if those bullies never said any of those things?
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Who would you be when you got off this plane?
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I stepped off that plane with this kind of confidence and I was just this the version of me that I wanted to be.
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I wasn't pretending to be someone I wasn't.
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I was letting the real me out, and that's who people accepted.
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This world is so eager to accept the best version of you, whatever version you're going to present.
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So why do we choose to present this?
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Well, hi, I'm Marcus.
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Please don't look at me or talk to me.
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I was like, yeah, I'm Marcus and this is who I am, and that was the radical change that I made at 15.
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And now I've been on that path ever since, and what I've learned since then has been so beautiful.
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So I want to give people two key takeaways right here.
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Number one is this you just make a choice.
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You don't have to hear from God, you don't have to wait till you're on a plane, go in somewhere.
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You can say you know what, I heard what this guy said and I'm going to take it and I'm going to try it tomorrow.
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I'm just going to be a more confident person tomorrow.
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Watch how that changes everything.
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That's one characteristic change.
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You can change as many or as little as you want.
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But the second piece, the actual advice here, is I recognize that, hey, if I want to be this version of myself not just here then I'm going to have to create certain habits that allow this to become my reality.
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And then I committed myself to doing those habits, creating those habits, being those habits.
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And it's because of that that I can choose to be whoever I want, I can do whatever I want, I can take on any career and I'm so confident that I'll be successful in it.
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And I don't mean that in a cocky way, I mean that in a here's the answer to life everybody If you truly believe you have that control, you truly believe you have that power and you're willing to do what it takes, Marcus, I so appreciate that and I appreciate you also outlining that with those two takeaways.
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Also, I love the visualization of kind of going away and making a choice to be different and folks don't know you sit in that space in their minds with regards to what that is, and it continues to fill them with the limiting beliefs.
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To be able to transport yourself into a space where you know you, you believe you're not in that location anymore and when those things happen in the past, it's so challenging yet can be so rewarding, so powerful with regards to what's happening.
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I often think about.
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You know even the social media world they would live in and how tough it is.
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You know the old, the old Facebook theory of you know Facebook's for the folks that you used to know and Twitter's for the people that you need to know and LinkedIn is for the people that you, you know, have to know if you want to get any further.
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But that Facebook, you know, back story, that always exists there in our minds, uh, as one that can be really something that holds us back.
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So to be able to let that go, to make that choice one of the principles that you talk about in your book, the choice to do that and then, secondly, to ultimately lead to the lifestyle and disciplines that you need, to another principle inside of your book.
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Those are two very important things that are critical.
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I don't want to go over all seven.
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We don't have time to do all seven but I do.
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I know discipline plays a very important role in that activity.
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I know it did for you simply because of the book.
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The chapter on discipline is three times as long as any of the other chapters.
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I noticed that today in terms of going forward.
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So you think about discipline, you talk about two of those takeaways the story, but tell folks one or two crazy discipline fitness habits you have that took you from that sale.
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That would have blown you away if you'd have held an umbrella at 6'4 and 120 to where you are today and continue to be.
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I love this and I love what you're detecting, what's registering with you, because you're so right.
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I did a really long discipline section and it's later in the book because I wanted to get people warmed up first.
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But I think discipline is something that's really lacking in this world, and I don't mean that as a negative and a put down, but I think the average person identifies as an undisciplined person, and so that's a big problem.
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So I do want to answer your question, but I want to start with something actionable.
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Stop identifying as an undisciplined person, and what that means is have you ever said the words I don't have the discipline for that?
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Stop that.
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Yes, I, and we all, by the way, my hand went up too.
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Okay, both hands.
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So this is this is not, marcus, pointing a finger at you and being like see you, you deserve, but no, I have so much mercy because I was once you.
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I was that person.
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Our language is so important, so my encouragement to you is immediately start, today.
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Say you know what.
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I am a disciplined person, and really quick.
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I know you're going to go, but, marcus, I know I'm not.
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Let me tell you all the reasons I'm not.
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Why don't you start by telling me all the reasons that you are.
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If you tell me there's nothing in your life that shows that you're a disciplined person, I would say you're.
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Probably.
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You're not lying, but you're just overlooking it.
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And what's happening is your brain registers what you want it to register.
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So if you say I'm an undisciplined person, it goes oh yeah, you're right here.
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Let me show you all the things you don't.
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Remember when you cheated on your diet.
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Remember when you did this and this and this.
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But if you said, no, I am a disciplined person, let me think about it for a second.
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You can think about.
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There's so many opportunities to prove that you're a disciplined person.
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Did you wake up to an alarm today?
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Most people did.
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Guess what?
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That took discipline.
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Now, even if you say but Marcus, I hit the snooze twice.
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Ok, that's fair, but you didn't hit it four times.
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That took discipline.
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There you can prove it to yourself.
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And the more you prove it to yourself, the more you're going to be looking for that next win, that next proof.
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And then, within weeks or a month or a couple of months, you're going to go, you know what.
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And then, within weeks or a month or a couple months, you're going to go.
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You know what?
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I am totally a disciplined person now and you can point that discipline at anything you want to point it at.
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And I am so sure discipline is one of the key principles of life that if you become a truly disciplined person and pointed at anything you choose to, you will become an absolute rock star in whatever that is, whatever you choose to point that discipline at.
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So, to answer your question and it's also going to hopefully help the audience as well, because in my opinion by the way, I've been in fitness and the fitness industry for over 25 years.
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I've been blessed to be on the cover of over 15 international fitness magazines, but here it is Number one diet is everything.
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Diet is 90, maybe 95% of how you look.
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You can train until you're almost dead, but if you don't have your diet right, you will not get the body you desire and, more importantly, you're not going to feel the way you want to.
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With the right foods, the right fuel, the right data I'm putting into my mouth, my brain does what I want it to do, my energy is where I want it to be, I sleep properly, my gut feels great.
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Those are really important keys to really enjoying life we don't even, we just take.
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We just allow our upset stomach, our discomfort, our inflammation, our headaches to dictate our life so much and again, I have so much mercy for everybody out there we don't know what we don't know.
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So hopefully you're listening to this and going okay, maybe, maybe I'm going to give this guy a try and, by the way, in my book I don't go into great detail into diet and whatnot, but I give you some basics that will get you very far, because there's some key little secrets that if you just do these little things, you can have a rockstar diet.
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You can have the body you desire, the mind you desire, the energy that you desire, you can have the life you desire.
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Thank you for sharing that and I thank you for sharing the disciplines that are there for you.
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Again and I did notice in the book you've got some nutritional guides.
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You cannot out-exercise a bad diet.
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There's no doubt about that.
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Inside of the choice to go along with those changes that you make inside of the choice to go along with those changes that you make inside of the choice chapter, you encourage individuals that they start on this journey, not to push their standard on others.
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Tell me a little bit more about that as well.
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Oh, I love that you're bringing this up.