Unleash Your Inner Leader - Tips on Creating Impact, Success, and Fulfillment - Mo Salami

Speaker 1: 0:00

Hey, uncommon Leaders, welcome back. This is the Uncommon Leader Podcast and I'm your host, john Gallagher. Today, I have an incredible story to share with you. My guest, mo Salami, is an online marketing expert, international keynote speaker and a certified life coach. Mo was part of Tony Robbins' California-based team, generating tens of million dollars in events worldwide. Mo grew up in a family that placed a premium on education and success. He achieved three degrees and lived in a prosperous neighborhood surrounded by accomplished neighbors. But here's the twist Despite his high-paying job, he found himself questioning his own definition of success. Through a blend of impact and fulfillment, you will learn how to design your own life and lifestyles while achieving the desired level of success that you're looking for. Let's get started. Mo Salami, it's great to have you on the Uncommon Leader Podcast. Say hello to the listeners. How are you doing today?

Speaker 2: 0:55

Hi listeners, great to meet you and I'm doing amazing. Great to be here.

Speaker 1: 1:01

Oh, I'm really looking forward to our conversation today. I know we set this up a little bit with regards to prior to the hitting the record button anyway, and I know the folks are going to find value in what you have to say, but I'll start you off just like I start every other first-time guest on the Uncommon Leader Podcast, and that's to ask you to tell us a story from your childhood or your youth that still impacts who you are as a person and as a leader today.

Speaker 2: 1:25

When I was eight years old, my grandma said to me you know, I think you're the most intelligent man I ever met and I think you'll do well. And when she said that, I sat up straight immediately and I puffed out my chest and I tried to make my voice go a bit deeper. I was panicking for two reasons One, because my grandma didn't realize this, but I was just eight years old, I was literally not a man yet. And the second thing was that, you know, I used to do my homework, you know, as best as I could, but I don't think I was the most intelligent at that point. And but I felt so much pressure because I really desperately wanted to step into this. You know, I was so wanting to step into what she just had almost prescribed for me, as it were. And years later, when I had to do $80,000 in sales in the next 48 hours to get to $1 million in sales for the quarter, or if I had to speak in French to a French audience, in France probably and or if I had to lead someone or teach someone or inspire someone, I would always have no doubts, because I think to myself the words that my grandma said to me, which was you know, I think you're the most intelligent person, intelligent man I've ever met and I think you'll do well, and I always try to step into that.

Speaker 1: 3:10

Oh, I love that story. There's so many good things within that and as a coach now works really cool as I. As you know, the word that came to my mind as well, or two words, several words encouragement was something that was there, but also, you know, frankly, setting an expectation. I think you use that word expectation so many times. We can be influenced when we're young and some of that influence can happen in a bad way as well. And if we go, if we harken back to a negative experience like that with regards to a teacher, someone says something negative to us and it sits out with us. But when you can have someone pour into your life a loving statement such as I believe you're the most intelligent man that I've ever met and that can stick with you and that sets the bar for you going forward, so when you do go into tough times, you can get back to that and you can use that mindset to get back to you. I think that is really cool. I appreciate you sharing that story and I can envision what that really means. I know you and I have not had a chance to meet in person before, but I've had a chance to talk to you a couple of times, as well as listen to a couple of your YouTube videos and look at your website. You are an inspiring person. There's many things that have led you to be inspiring as well, so I can understand how your grandmother made that inspiring for you also. Well, we talked about, as we got started in the work that you do, the person, if you will, that you served is this unfulfilled achiever. What does that mean to you, an unfulfilled achiever, and how is it that you're helping that person?

Speaker 2: 4:46

What it means is that person wants more, which is pretty much all of us right. That person wants more from life and they just seek that next level. And what you find is that it really speaks to stepping into uncomfortable. Most people, they stay comfortable living a life that they love, and very few people get uncomfortable to create a life that they love, and a lot of times it's that do I stay in the comfort zone or do I step out of the comfort zone? So I help people step out of the comfort zone and even go to that next level where they create the life and the lifestyle that they love. And the way I do that is two ways we impact and fulfilment. Impact via, you know, we help people with their online business, or fulfilment is the personal development side of things. So that's the way that I help the unfulfilled overachiever, because the desire to be more is there in all of us, probably the same or a very similar level, and on some level, most people think I deserve this, I deserve an amazing life because and then they give their reason. But it doesn't work out that way that everyone gets that, you know, gets that amazing life that they seek. So I help people step into that, the best way that I know how.

Speaker 1: 6:10

No, I appreciate that when you think about that and you think about your background. How did you maybe it was that conversation with your grandmother, but you know, was there? Was there a point in your life where you said I want to do this, I want to have an impact on others, I want to make a difference and I'm going to do that by starting my own company and being a coach and being a marketing expert to help online businesses.

Speaker 2: 6:33

It definitely was a point and it started with a sign. So, as these things do, you know, it started with a sign and before we get to the sign, I'll back up a little bit and tell you that you know that I'm from a family where the holy grail of success is education and, specifically, having a degree and even more specifically, having an accounting degree or a science degree of some sort. So that's the pinnacle of success, even more so than any type of finances. So I did it, I succeeded. I got my first degree, you know, age 20. In fact, I have three degrees and very quickly, you know, went to live in a really nice neighborhood, amazing neighbors, they're all you know doing, having amazing professions if they're, you know, investment bankers somewhere, or they're surgeons or some sort of amazing career. Like really nice neighborhood, very spacious home, nice car, all that great stuff, nice neighbors, like I said, and what I found was that that six figure income also included work in 16 hour shifts. So I would get to the end of the year, you know, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, cross into the new year and I was successful, right, but I wasn't sure because my year was a blur of just my weekdays and my weekends and the holidays were work days for me. So I wasn't sure if I was a success. And that brings me nicely to the sign. So I saw a sign. I'm in a bookstore, I saw a sign, and a sign says how to be successful. And I saw that and I thought well, I'm already successful because I'm from the world of maths, physics, chemistry, biology, and according to that world, I'm a success, right. So I was curious what is this all about? So it turns out that sign was an ad for a book called the Success Principles by Jack Canfield, and this was the very day that I was introduced to personal development. So I grabbed the book in the bookstore and I sat down. I probably read at minimum 40, 50% of the way through the book in the store. I hadn't even bought the book at this point. I was just sitting there reading it. It's just fascinated by this brand new world. I bought the book that same day. The first chapter of the book talked about taking responsibility. Everything that happens to you, you take responsibility for it, and just grab the responsibility by the reins, if you will. So then, ever the good student. I went to the back of that book and I ordered every single book in the back of the Success Principles and there was like I don't remember this point, however many, but there were a lot, and that's how I discovered Tony Robbins, that's how I discovered Tihaveka, that's how I discovered a lot of my other mentors and, ultimately, that's how I discovered online business. So I went to an online business conference, as you do, and I asked myself the question what would it look like if I were the best in the world at online marketing? And, by the way, what would it look like if I were the best in the world at personal development? So, probably for the next decade, I probably both spent or was invited to $500,000 worth of seminars and lectures by whoever's the best in the world digital marketing, public speaking, online marketing, personal development. I would go to all these different events and just take it in all the information, and what happened very quickly is I found myself a fork in the road, and the fork in the road was do I continue down the online marketing path At this point, I had taught myself the code and I was building websites and getting results for companies with online business or do I go to work for Tony Robbins and I'd learnt sales from Jay Abraham and Chet Holmes and sales from Chet Holmes and marketing from Jay Abraham at that point for years love Jay, love Chet. And going to work for Tony was an opportunity to serve a really great mission at this point a 45 year mission by Tony Robbins, and also I had the opportunity to do high ticket sales at a high level as well and, of course, serve people at a high level. So I ended up doing that and I was looking back again, met some great people over there really great friends I have until today and then I was looking back at my success in inverted commas from earlier on and I realised I came to the epiphany that some people think they're successful when what's really going on is successful. So I said to myself I wonder what it would look like if I used everything I've learnt from online business, everything I've learnt from personal development, to help people create the life and the lifestyle that they wish to create, and that's more or less how I got to this point.

Speaker 1: 11:34

Strict, stressful. Love that word and I think about that. You're exactly right, because, as you talk about those 16 hour days to become successful when it comes to finances, but you knew there was something more. You knew there was something bigger than that. That was out there.

Speaker 2: 11:51

And again.

Speaker 1: 11:51

I love tying back to the conversation you had with your grandmother when you're eight years old. And what would it look like if I were the best in this space? Did you know that many of the things that I discuss on the Uncommon Leader podcast are subjects that I coach other leaders and organisations on? If you would be interested in having me discuss one-on-one or group coaching with you or know someone who is looking to move from underperforming to uncommon in their business or life, I would love to chat with you. Click the link in the show notes to set up a free call to discuss how coaching might benefit you and your team. Now back to the show. I just love that story.

Speaker 2: 12:36

You know it's so funny, go ahead. It's so funny, john, I've never even linked that like because I say that a lot, you know. You also know our mutual friend, jay Twine, for example. I say things like that a lot, like best in the world, and I literally, just now, this second John just linked that maybe that's where it started from with my, literally from my grandma saying that, you know that, you know, had me thinking those words moving forward. You know, ever since, I never even linked that until just now, this moment.

Speaker 1: 13:06

Yeah, setting that bar is very important to you. I can tell as I listen, and I can tell what you're passionate about as you go forward. While this isn't a video, I can see that you know, as you define, what that means to you, and your smile and things like that. So you know, maybe it's a personal story for you or something you deal with in terms of your clients. What do you see, though, is some of the biggest barriers that leaders go through to create what you're talking about, to create or eliminate, if you will, the unfulfilled feeling that they have, eliminate that sick, stressful in their life. I think it's in the way.

Speaker 2: 13:44

So I think a lot of leaders. What I'd say is this a lot of leaders don't realize how amazing they are. You know, they haven't had that perhaps equivalent of that conversation I had, and a lot of times. For the very fact they're a leader, you know, they're leading, they're serving someone or inspiring someone, or perhaps they're leading their family, or they're leading at work or leading in some in multiple aspects in their life. What we tend to do is dismiss who we are, you know, dismiss all the amazing things that we are and what we do because we're just us right, and then we look externally at all these other amazing people, amazing resources, without first having that foundation of how amazing we already are. You know, I always like to say to you your ordinary, to us your extraordinary. So let's say, as a leader, there's this other realm or success that you want to step into. What I'm saying is you're not starting from the beginning. You already have all these amazing competencies that you have and skill sets, and guess what? You have all these uniquenesses, things that are so unique about yourself. So you're not starting from the beginning as a leader. You're starting from a baseline of all your competencies and you can switch them out to towards this brand new objective that you have. And yes, we might add some mindset pieces, yes, we might add some new strategies, but ultimately, to you your ordinary, to us your extraordinary. As a leader, you're better than you think. You are at the starting point and just step into that competence and that competence will very soon lead to confidence.

Speaker 1: 15:24

Love that An extraordinary word I love to use the word uncommon as it is in the uncommon leader podcast is doing ordinary things really well in an extraordinary fashion leads to some of the success that you're talking about and significance that you've touched on as well in terms of being fulfilled in the work that you do. So the barriers that exist. I love that in terms of a from a mindset standpoint, recognizing how great we can be. How do you then in your, let's say, in your coaching business, how do you get leaders to recognize that? How do you teach them? What is the process that you go through to get them there?

Speaker 2: 16:03

So I teach a six step process and the process that the premise or the umbrella of the process is do the best you can, consistently. And what it speaks to and what it leans to is expertise. You know you have a different life if you can lead the life as an expert, as a leader slash. Expert versus as a leader slash. Oh, I just kind of turn up, you know. So we teach preparation. Preparation says that let's say, you're not able to show up on the day or the preparation you did yesterday or the other day or the day before, the day before you prepared yourself so well already for today. And again, if you, if you, if you prepare, if you don't prepare, you will despair. If you do prepare, you won't despair. You know, in terms of again leaning and inching that leadership that you have towards expertise, and the expertise means that you can add even more value out into the world. So we teach a lot of like the preparation we have, you know, exercise and modules behind that. The other is to show up. You know some days you're showing up could mean more than it does the other day. But show up like really focus in give the best you can that day, that moment, but show up fully that that moment and again. That showing up stacks, it stacks and it stacks and it stacks. You know there's a phrase where you say you're not paying for you know the fact that the person comes in to hit the nail with the hammer. You're paying for the fact that they know where to hit the nail with the hammer. You know and that speaks to just that years and years of the preparation and the showing up. And I always like to say, as someone who loves languages, I always like to say you know, in life and in leadership, in this case, if you don't true, and you will become fluent. If you don't true, and you will become fluent, as in, enhance your expertise. And again, that expertise levitates you, leads you towards being putting even more value out there, and then adding even more value out there gives you the opportunity to create the life and the lifestyle that you, that you create, because a lot of times, putting value out there leads to compensation as well.

Speaker 1: 18:24

I love that. First, we're tweetable moments all through there as you go, for if you prepare, you won't despair. If you don't ruin, you won't become fluent in terms of the work that you have and a couple other things that you said in there. I wish we had the time to dive deeper and we may have to do this again so I can dive deeper into those six steps, but I want to ask you, because our leaders are looking for that. They want to have a process that they can go through. So the listeners that are coming in, they want to make a change. They absolutely believe they can create the life that they want and they don't have it today. They might be successful, as you said. They might be successful in terms of money that they're making, but they're not. They're not seeing it in the other areas of life. They want to and they're nervous. They're thinking about making a change, especially in today's economy, is something that's very difficult for them. What advice do you give them to get started to really think about making that happen?

Speaker 2: 19:13

What I would say is this there was a study a few years ago by a gentleman called our nightingale, and our nightingale he was actually he was. He made a speech, you know, to his sales team and he mentioned that they took some 25 year olds and for the argument, say, I'll use the number 100, so it's a 125 year olds who wanted to have this amazing life, had all these desires and things they wanted to do financially and otherwise and just Create a great, great, great life, as we do. And they studied them for 40 years, circled back by the time they were 65. And what they found was that 4% of them had achieved the goals they set by 65, that they'd set when they're 25. And then, generally, john, how many you know, by the time people at 80, what percentage of people, would you say, have lived the exact life they wanted, more or less? You know minus, you know huge regrets that. What percentage of people have lived the life they want, typically by the time they're 80. Oh, wow, it's got to be a small number.

Speaker 1: 20:20

I mean again, I might go less than 1% just because of the way you frame the question. But and as I think about it, you know, have I created that on my own? We're trying to help others create that in their story and there's a low percentage. I think it's below 1%, I don't know. I'm just gonna throw that out there.

Speaker 2: 20:38

Absolutely right. It literally is. It's literally that 2% of people live. Can you imagine? There are 8 billion people in the world. 2% will live the life that they want to live and a lot of it is down to like stepping into that comfort, stepping into that uncomfortable, like I mentioned before, like being willing to take the first step towards the goal that you want. And it could be a small step towards your leadership. It could be a bigger step, it could be, you know, a jog, so to speak, but always like stepping into that. Action taken is super crucial to to make. I alluded to before that I went to the back of the success principles and I read every single book that's called shelf education If you don't do anything with it. Right, right?

Speaker 1: 21:29

Well, it's not like it's knowledge.

Speaker 2: 21:32

It's knowledge Shelf education If you don't read it. I read them, but it's knowledge. And then guess what? Oh, by the way, you get to be the smartest person in the room. That means nothing if you're not implementing for yourself and ultimately, for your loved ones and the ones that love you back and the life and the lifestyle that you want to create it's all about really. Susan Jeffers would say fill the fear and do it anyway, like really stepping into the fear, because most of the things we fear, they don't come true anyway. And as you step into the fear, that fear gives way to the courage. The courage becomes the competence and the competence becomes the confidence and, ultimately, the expertise as a great leader. So it's about really stepping into that and believing in your ability.

Speaker 1: 22:25

Moe, I absolutely love that. Again, there's I could. I could spend 30 minutes just talking about that last response that you had and all the different quotes that you used. Let me put you on the spot just a little bit. When's the last time you found yourself stepping out of your comfort zone into that fear? And how did that go for you? What are you working on right now? That's outside of your comfort zone.

Speaker 2: 22:47

You know, I had this conversation with my coach about a year ago which is that I intentionally live a life outside of my comfort zone, on purpose, all the time. You know, because when you step and live outside of your comfort zone, it's I see it as a sign of life. You know, when you have that uncertainty, that fear, if you will, you need to be courageous. Courageous even. I see it as a sign that something amazing is about to happen. You know, you could go sit on the couch and I'm sure I don't want to call them out. I'm sure, like Netflix is what I want to say, but I want to call out. I'm sure there's amazing things on TV. How about that to be to be nice and generic? However, if there are those things that you want, you can always say, oh, I'll do it tomorrow or next week or next year. But in terms of stepping out of my comfort zone, again, I do all the time. I speak a bunch of languages. I've had such scenarios and situations where I've had to speak in front of a whole crowd of people in my second language or my third language or my fourth language, as it were, and then you have your thoughts because in the crowd could be people that speak let's use English. For example, they speak the Queen's English, or maybe they speak slang, or maybe they have a dialect or an accent. You don't know who's out there and it's not even your first language in the first place, right? But then I step into that, because is it 7% of communications verbal, right? So I think, okay, I'll do my bit, and then you know, I'll get through the rest with with body language, for example. Or you mentioned just before the the we had a pre chat we had that you'd been to my YouTube channel and when people look at the videos now, you better believe there was a process to get, to be able to step in front of the, the camera, as it were, to make the videos at the level, at the high level we believe we're doing now. So the answer is that I, I, every, every moment I get, I live external to my comfort zone, because I believe I have no right to be in my comfort zone. Well, there is. There is nothing going on in there. You know, in the comfort zone.

Speaker 1: 24:59

Love that, mel, and I love the idea. Just about the YouTube videos right, it says hard and it's as difficult as hitting the record button and getting going. You've got a video and I'm going to put a link to it on the show notes. We just I want to honor your time and we won't get to dive into it, but the most recent one you've done is on perfectionism and how it, how it just ultimately keeps us from being great and that we don't have to be perfectionist. Maybe I'll just I'll just give you a minute. Tell me about that most recent one. What is it about perfectionism that bothers you?

Speaker 2: 25:30

In sectionism. I think it bothers so many of us. You know, we have the perfectionists that they won't budge from that. We have the recovering perfectionists that kind of had the, the, the, the, they had the epiphany. One day Perfectionist says how do I get nothing done at all, or how do I get things done super slowly, or how do I and I'm going to say this a few times plan and plan and plan and plan and make my plan amazing, you know. So I think that. And again, if you do have a moment you know you know five or six ish minutes, I think the video is go to YouTube, put in my name, mo Salami, m O S A L A M I, and watch that video on perfection. And perfection holds you back because, ironically, I think that if you're aiming for a perfect result, then do it, do it imperfectly, go for it imperfectly and ironically, through iterations, you know, correct in and improvements and improvements and improvements, ironically, showing up imperfectly leads in the direction to perfection, so to speak. And then, if we, I had this, the perfection was always an interesting one for me for a few years and during my days of, by the way, warning about to get a little bit religious on everyone right now. So during my days when I worked for Tony, I was trying to figure out what is my definition of perfection here, like, what is the definition of perfection? And what I came up with was this we're all is it one in four trillion likelihood that we're, we're born right and we're all here listening to this right now. So that's pretty, pretty amazing. So my definition of perfection is this if one of God's children is doing something, so let's say you do something imperfectly for the fact that you're one of God's children and I'm not even going into who, who is your God and all that great stuff but for the fact that you want to God's children and you're taking that action. That in itself is my definition of perfection. When an imperfect action is being taken by by, by one of God's children, and then to step out of the religion part a little bit. Essentially, just, it's all about like stepping out and stepping up, stepping up to the plate, having that courage, stepping into the fear, because guess what, as a leader, and especially as an uncommon leader, we need you. The majority of people are looking to be led. So if you're stepping up as the leader to lead your family, to lead your, your company, to lead your people, whoever your people are, to lead your tribe or to lead whoever it is you lead. We need you at such a level because the majority of people are looking to be led, you know, so every little thing that helps to make you a better leader for the fact that you're leading others. We need you. I'm pleading to you, if you will, because there are people who you are there. You know I mentioned all these famous names. You are their version of whichever famous name, because they want to be led uncommonly specifically by you. So it's really really important to step into things like imperfection or whatever makes you a better leader for serving others.

Speaker 1: 28:54

Mo, thank you for sharing that. I am glad I asked you that question I was going to pause on, but I'm still going to put a link to that YouTube episode in the show notes so that folks can go to it and we'll put some other information. So, mo, another question for you and I think is is just something again that I'm fascinated about, about you personally and about others who can. So you speak multiple languages fluently. How have you developed that skill set and what is what has that? What has that been for you in terms of being able to do that? Because it's it's it's fascinating to me. I know my one and that's all I have to learn all I can about that one.

Speaker 2: 29:30

The great news is that your one is English, which is one of the most widely spoken languages in the world. Right, you know, go to any list top three, even top two, you'll find English right there. So if you're going to pick one, that's probably a really amazing one to pick, which is English. I speak English, french, spanish and Brazilian Portuguese fluently, and the word I would use is desire. You know, if it's languages or if it's something else that you're wanting to get to, the other side of there must be like a desire to want to do it, to get to the, to get to that finish line. And it's so interesting because I remember, like way back in the day, I spoke to someone who said I spoke to someone at that point, I just spoke English, like these languages I've learned as an adult, by the way, and when I say fluent, I mean as in. At this point, I don't consider English to be my first language. I consider they're all my first language English, french, spanish, portuguese to the point that I have language days. So my official day to speak English is literally Monday, tuesday and Friday. These are my days to. So, for example, if I need to write something or do anything on a Tuesday or Friday. I'm doing all of that in French on a Wednesday or a Saturday. I'm doing all of that in Spanish on a on a Thursday or Sunday, in Portuguese, you know? So, like my, I say to my mind, I say to my mind that I have no first language, they're just equal. You know, and, and again, I think, and again. I'm saying this because I want to serve your audience, but I think at this point I'm way ahead of fluent. You know one of my friends who speaks a bunch of languages as well herself. She uses the word dominant in those languages. And I remember when I spoke one, I asked someone oh, do you know, I think it would be pretty cool to learn French. And they said to me oh, no, I don't, you know, I don't think you're the kind of person that would be able to do that. And but they don't know about my grandma, right, that's right. So to speak. Again, I put it down to sort of desire, enjoying the process of learning the languages. Again, I won't, I guess, take this into too much more detail, but, for example, I learned French using, at the time, a TV show, a TV show called friends. I just watched the whole thing I. I literally took a train from London to Paris, gardena and I went to the store, bought all of the series of friends and I watched it all the way through. Let me think about this I watched it all the way through in English with French subtitles, then in French with no subtitles. Then I would just watch movie after movie after movie after movie on France, listen to music as well, and and and a lot of that just came back down to again enjoying the process, enjoying the culture. Some will say, think this way about it or do this other way. I would say this the capacity of a human being is unlimited. So if for me my, I guess, passion is languages, for yourself it might be something else, but that's something else. But the capacity of a human being is unlimited. There are people that go oh it's amazing that you speak four languages, and I'm not that impressed because I have friends who speak six languages, seven languages, and guess what? There are people that speak 50 languages. You know, if you research through history and similar, and again, it's because, again, that you know you may you may be listening to this thing. Oh, I don't care about languages, which is fine, but there's something you care about, you know. Perhaps you want to start your own online business and serve your tribe. Perhaps you want to be that uncommon leader and serve your tribe. Perhaps you want to learn the ukulele, whatever that is right. Or there's another thing you want to learn. It's just that all of those limiting beliefs are just, you know, unbelievable and you can definitely step into that. I know I've gone into a bit of a rant, but I'm very passionate about letting people know that they can achieve first stages, need to believe.

Speaker 1: 33:58

You know you say that and as I listened through, I'm just humbled because of what you said is that if you're passionate enough about something, you find that fire inside you to make it happen. You'll do whatever it takes. And so that unique discipline that you have of the different days of the week the first time I've ever heard a discipline like that, but that makes sense as to how you become very good at four languages dominant in a language and make that happen because you're passionate about that, about those languages I find that very interesting, thank you. I have a question I want to ask because you asked me to ask it in your notes and I smiled when I read it and I can't wait A little bit different. What color pen should we all be using? Is it the black pen or the blue pen, mo?

Speaker 2: 34:43

What an amazing question. What color pen should we be using? The black pen or the blue pen? Ladies and gentlemen, here's the thing you can curate the life that you wish to create. I'm going to say that one more time. You can curate the life that you wish to create. Usually, life or somebody says to us, here's the life that you should lead, and it could be because of where you grew up or your background or some other random reason limiting beliefs, that this is the life that you're going to lead. And, as an adult, that usually tends to be a life of limits and usually that tends to be a life where we've had our life up to this part right. And we get to this chapter of our life and we grab the black pen or we grab the blue pen to write this standard version of our life moving forward. And I'm giving you permission to say here's the thing Maybe the next chapters of your life you want to write using shock horror, a red pen or a green pen, or maybe you decide, you know, I want to write the next chapter of my life, next chapters of my life, using a sharpie or even a glitter pen, or you might think, you know, I'm not even going to write the next sentences, paragraphs, pages, chapters of my amazing life moving forward using a pen. I'm going to use a pencil or a paintbrush. Most people, they lead a life that's been assigned to them and a lot of times it's with limits, because we even have phrases that hold you back, stay in your lane. You know, this is your level, etc. And I'm saying that again that you can curate the life that you wish to create, and it's up to you exactly like, literally exactly the life and the life that you want to design. You have it with within you. The skill set of a human being, the potential of a human being is unlimited, and what that says to me is that you listen to this leader. You know the uncommon leader, listening to this right now, you can literally decide on the pen that you would select to lead the exact life you want.

Speaker 1: 36:57

Thank you for that, Mo. This is the red pen I got sitting up right here.

Speaker 2: 37:01

I'll use that to start by. I love that. Which pen? Out of curiosity, which pen would you pick out, John?

Speaker 1: 37:07

Which pen would I pick up? Well, if I'm being, you know, the infamous practical, I'm picking up generally the first one, but I have a sense I like to write with a blue pen, but I don't buy blue pens, if you will.

Speaker 2: 37:23

So sometimes it's actually the.

Speaker 1: 37:24

you know, I get the hotel pens and I pick them up. Or I sit at a restaurant. They have a restaurant pen, I'll pick it up. I mean, yeah, I got to have that pen because I do like pen Right.

Speaker 2: 37:33

Right. The premise is that you can even do that if you decide that, oh, I would like to use the black pen, I would like to use the blue pen. The point is, it's entirely up to you. You know, if you want to use the next one, I typically oh, here it is. So this is the pen I use.

Speaker 1: 37:49

Oh, yeah, I was wondering. So that's what was going through my mind the four color pen that he's showing that I always wanted as a kid, as you can inflict the red or the green or the blue or the black, depending on how you use it. Choose the color and how you feel that day, Right?

Speaker 2: 38:01

Depending on how you feel, you know, life is a bunch of you know, throw them up in the air a bunch of emotions, right, and a lot of times we restrict ourselves and live within two, three ish, four ish, and you can literally decide, you know, to pick from seven ish, eight ish emotions and, you know, just lead a really, really great life and you said it just there depending on how you feel, you know and you have it within you to really make that decision on the life that you want to lead, the lifestyle you want to lead. I'm talking about being limitless, you know, being that uncommon leader that says I'm going to lead that way, I'm going to serve myself this way because I want to serve my tribe in that way. And literally, you know, choosing for yourself what that looks like, because if you don't choose for yourself what that looks like, somebody, society, will choose it for you, and it tends to be a life with limits.

Speaker 1: 39:00

I love that, mo. I've really enjoyed our time and I know that you've already answered my last question, just as one last thing on the pen, so this is one that I really like as well the Pentel M205. And I think you know also sometimes, like there are, there are memories in each one of these, are stories behind each one of these colors of pen, or there's stories behind the the barrel itself in terms of what's going on, and I think that one brings back a lot of good stories and I like to write with that, with a sharp pencil point and and the click and the little eraser that sits up at the top and things like that. It's a really cool tool that I choose. But again, it's just amazing to think about what you can use as a metaphor for what we're going through, and that multi-colored pen option is absolutely a great metaphor that we choose. Again, I've really loved our time today. How can the listeners of the Uncommon Leader Podcast connect with you and stay in touch with you?

Speaker 2: 39:54

The way that the listeners can connect with me is that I teach that you can create the life and the lifestyle that you wish to create, and the way that I teach that is via impact and fulfillment. Impact speaks to you, know success and you know the impact we want to make. And the way that I teach that is via your own online business, whether perhaps you love your nine to five, so to speak, and you want that on the side six figure online business, or you want to serve your own tribe full time, uncommonly, and you want to do that full time. I never like to give figures like that, but maybe you want to go for like a mid six figure or beyond as your full time. So we teach that you know online business and the fulfillment part is via personal development coaching. So I actually do a strategy call and you'd get a ton of value during the call. And during the call we can determine with clarity, you know what the next steps are for you and that could mean you know working together, you know if it's a fit, absolutely, and also it certainly will mean that you get a really clear picture of designing the life and the lifestyle for yourself Moving forward. So just go to most salamicom forward slash free call. That's most salamicom forward slash free call, and if you wanted to know more about me generally, just go to most salamicom forward slash blog.

Speaker 1: 41:17

Excellent, mo. Thank you for adding so much value to the listeners of the uncommon leader podcast. I'll put the links that you've suggested into the show notes as well, that people can find, but I wish you the best in the future.

Speaker 2: 41:29

Thank you so much. I'm so honored to be on the podcast. Like I mentioned, I've listened to so many episodes and honored to be a guest on here and I hope we've added some, some value for our amazing uncommon leaders today.

Speaker 1: 41:49

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